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Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Illinois State Board of Education is on record that children can live 10 to 12 years longer on vegan diet

Excerpts fromPeep Show For Children Only” – Dr. T. Colin Campbell PhD. testifies under oath at ISBE hearings and the “China Study” is now in evidence and property of the state. The State of Illinois is guilty of crimes against humanity for their inaction in these affairs now that ignorance can no longer be claimed.

MR. WARWAK: Do you think that if the athletes, when they're young and they don't try the vegan diet, that they're putting their life at risk maybe by five, ten years less?

MR. RILEY: Objection.

DR. CAMPBELL: Yes.

MR. RILEY: Move to strike the answer, objection. Same objection. He's been proffered to talk about the milk posters. Dr. Campbell has been proffered to talk about the milk posters. You have made your rulings multiple times, Mr. Simon, on this point. It's not about a vegan diet or plant based diet.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: I don't see any reference to vegan diet or plant based diet in the exhibit Respondent 5. It's limited to dairy products.

MR. WARWAK: We just entered this exhibit in and it says vegan on the top of it.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: I just limited your questioning, Mr. Warwak.

MR. WARWAK: To?

ARBITRATOR SIMON: The milk posters.

MR. WARWAK: Okay.

MR. WARWAK: When an athlete sees a milk mustache poster, does he believe that milk will be good?

MR. RILEY: Objection as to what an athlete believes when he sees a milk poster. Form of the question.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Sustained. The witness can't know what an athlete might think.

MR. WARWAK: Do you think that it's wise to have an athlete promoting milk on a poster?

DR. CAMPBELL: No.

MR. WARWAK: Why not?

DR. CAMPBELL: Well, we now have excellent evidence, for example, as published in the literature to show that on average people do live in fact 10 to 12 years longer who are consuming, you know, a vegan-like diet. That means no dairy, by the way.

MR. WARWAK: Excellent.

And later ...

ARBITRATOR SIMON: We are back on the record. It is 12:50 p.m. A couple housekeeping things before we resume to Warwak's cross examination. First of all, Ms. Rogers has given me the last two pages of Respondent's Exhibit 8, so I now have all eight pages of Dr. Campbell's curriculum vitae.

MR. WARWAK: Did you want a copy of the book?

ARBITRATOR SIMON: And -- that was my next item. I indicated that I was accepting the China Study as exhibits, and that will be marked as Respondent's Exhibit 10.

(Whereupon Respondent's Exhibit No. 10 was offered and received into evidence.)

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Mr. Riley, do you have any additional exhibit stickers? Also, Mr. Warwak, you had presented what you had previously identified as WI-2, which was the April, I presume April 2008 lunch menu?

MR. WARWAK: Yes.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Are you proffering that as an exhibit?

MR. WARWAK: Yes.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Do you have any objections?

MR. RILEY: Relevance.

MR. WARWAK: We talked about it earlier and no one objected when we were talking about the lunch program not having a choice, a vegan offering at the Algonquin Road School, and it wasn't objected to then, I just thought it would make sense to have a visual for that discussion. It was already in the record.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: This is the menu for Algonquin Road School?

MR. WARWAK: Correct.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Okay, I'll take the exhibit. Mark this as Respondent's 2. And I am correct that this is the April 2008 menu.

(Whereupon Respondent Exhibit No. 2 was offered and received into evidence.)

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009

Excerpts from "Peep Show For Children Only"

MR. RILEY: We have something we'd like to discuss on the record, too, if that's okay, Mr. Simon. This morning Mr. Warwak, who owns the yellow Harley motorcycle that's out in front, was going up and down the street, Orchard Street, directly in front of the school, middle school, gunning and revving it up and down for a period of probably about ten minutes. Had to call the police to notify them that this was going on. We would have called the police to notify them that anybody who was gunning the motorcycle up and down in front of the middle school. It has an intimidating on effect on any student because they can all hear it and it is intended to have an intimidating effect on these students. And we would like to discuss the question of what kind of order you could enter to prohibit Mr. Warwak from doing these types of things and engaging in these kind of antics designed to intimidate these students. Every single one at that school hears this. And he was also -- I want also to say something else. Monday he was outside the school taking photographs. And we mentioned this originally. Taking photographs of the kids. He has a sign that was placed across the street that's on private property, meat is murder, milk is misery. And he's out there taking photographs of kids as they're entering and leaving the school. We can't have this in a middle school environment.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Mr. Warwak.

MR. WARWAK: Regarding pictures, I don't have any pictures. I didn't take any pictures. Regarding --

MR. RILEY: Did you have a camera? Did you have a camera?

MR. WARWAK: Excuse me, I'm talking. I'm trying to answer to your charges. In regards to going down the street, I was -- I arranged with the person that lives across the street to remove the sign. And when I had drove down the street, I had timed it to where I would get here a little early but I didn't want to get so early that the students were there. I saw the kids were already in the building at that point and Dr. Mahaffy was standing out there alone. There were no students really out there. And I had to go to the house right next door to take the sign down. And I didn't want to come in contact with any students so I went around the block, then I went to that house and I took down that sign. I didn't do anything criminal.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: How many times did you go up and down the street?

MR. WARWAK: I went around the street one time to make sure that the students were all in and then I went to that house and I took down that sign.

MR. RILEY: It's right in the morning when the kids are entering school. We all know this. And also there's no excuse for – I still don't think I had an answer to the question of whether or not he had a camera in his hand at the time.

MR. WARWAK: I didn't take any pictures.

MR. RILEY: Did you have a camera and did it -- my question is, were you making it appear that you were taking photographs of the kids?

MR. WARWAK: No, I did not.

MR. RILEY: Did you have a camera in your hand?

MR. WARWAK: I object to this line of questioning.

MR. RILEY: This is terribly intimidating to these kids, and we can see the effect -- you know, how nervous they are to begin with. This is really -- I have to say this, it's outrageous.

MR. WARWAK: If I am prohibited from being within a certain distance of the school, you can issue an order to that and I'll stay away from that distance. I have a right to ride down the street and go to someone's house that is not even on school property.

MR. RILEY: And to intimidate fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth grade kids in this hearing. He could have gone any time.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Mr. Warwak, all I can really do is ask you to not engage in any conduct that could be construed as intimidating any of the witnesses, whether they're children or adults in this case. I don't know how much more authority I have, Mr. Riley.

MR. RILEY: We could order him not to come within 200 -- two blocks of the school while this hearing is going on. I think Mr. Warwak said he would abide by that. He said he would abide by other orders and hasn't done that either.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Would you agree to that, Mr. Warwak?

MR. WARWAK: I agree not to go on school property but when it comes to driving down the road or visiting a friend that lives across the street, I can't agree to that. That would be against the law.

MR. RILEY: He could do it not -- not between the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: I think the extent of my authority as a hearing officer, I'm not a judge, is related to this hearing. And I think all I can ask you to do is or direct you to do is to refrain from any actions that could be construed as intimidating any of the children at the school, teachers, or any other witnesses.

MR. WARWAK: Okay.

MR. RILEY: Thank you, Mr. Simon.

ARBITRATOR SIMON: Okay.

Peep Show For Children Only

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Friday, September 18, 2009

ED declares Warwak the internet’s most infamous vegan terrorist

And this from the pretty funny Encyclopedia Dramatica web site:

Dave Warwak - The internet’s most infamous vegan terrorist. It is not an exaggeration to say that Warwak hates and is hated by absolutely everybody – including other extreme animal right activists such as PETA. Warwak was even banned from the Vegan Freak forum for being too extreme, which is saying a lot considering members of this forum force vegan diets on their pets.

What makes Warwak so very, very interesting is that you do not have to insult him in order to incur his wrath - you don't even have to disagree with him or even contact him. No, all you need is to do in order to feel this love of justice is to merely exist.

While Dave has been the cancer on the asshole of the internet for some time know, his increasingly retarded and fundamentalist views are becoming more and more public following the Peep-Show incident.

Read more here http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Dave_Warwak

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Further excerpts from “Shall We Eat Flesh?” Rational Living Library, B. Liber 1934

Radicals or revolutionists who believe in justice for men and who exclude the animals are only half-enlightened. The meat habit, handed down from a reactionary past, is being encouraged by interested capitalists. But progressive people and intelligent proletarians ought to break down all such cruelties inherited from a dark antiquity. A new world will need new modes of living.

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Vegetarism is not merely a cranky or narrow food theory. It is a philosophy and its scope is as wide as the world. Its principals may be applied all through life and shape our personal conduct in all our affairs and relations with other people as well as the duties of society toward the individual. A thinker will apply his food thoughts to the rights of his mate and child, to those of his fellowmen and fellow animals.

A thinker should not be indifferent to the origin of the food which is going into his flesh and blood and upon which his physical strength and even his mental make-up will depend.

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Of course, a vegetarian is against war. But not necessarily so and I am not certain whether all vegetarians will say that this is an absolute. I am convinced that a worker who is class-conscious will not oppose class war when necessary, even if he is a vegetarian. At any rate, if a vegetarian does oppose war, let him not hide away behind an excuse. If at all possible, he should openly refuse service and take the consequences. Even the “red cross” chapter during war time belongs to war and is an unsuitable work for vegetarians who are objectors.

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True vegetarians cannot be religious. All important religions have been and are cruel and have encouraged killing and meat-eating and slave-driving and economic exploitation and “untouchability” of pariahs---and have sided with the oppressors.

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Vegetarism has nothing to do with religion, except to be opposed to it and to its great harm. If a divinity had ordered me to abstain from meat, that would be vegetarism by force. The true vegetarian needs no commands. He is convinced both by reason and by sentiment.

The Bible says, “Thou shalt not kill.” But that never meant not to kill animals---and most Jews and Christians and most believers in the Bible are meat-eaters. It did not even mean not to kill man---during war time. “Jehovah is a warrior,” says the same book, which is full of all sorts of horrible cruelties. And does not the Bible and do not other related books prescribe just how to kill the animals for food and sacrifice to the God of the same Bible?

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We---the cranks? We---the fanatics?

No.

There are no worse cranks than the meat-eaters in spite of the fact that they are in the majority. Particularly those who are informed from practical experience, and from scientific work that flesh is unnecessary and still fear not to be sufficiently nourished on a vegetarian or lacto-vegetarian diet and think they must have meat food.

Fanatics are those who in our times of technical progress, when animal food is no longer a necessity, continue to insist, under more or less “logical” excuses, on sacrificing life for eating purposes, just the same as their poor, ignorant, helpless, non-civilized, primitive ancestors did.

"Shall We Eat Flesh?" Rational Living Library, B. Liber 1934
Benzion Liber, M.D., Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at New York. Born in 1875, Liber was a Romanian Jewish Socialist, nicknamed "The People's Doctor" who worked at the Polyclinic Hospital and was a practicing physician in New York since 1904.

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Thursday, September 17, 2009

And even more excerpts from “Shall We Eat Flesh?” Rational Living Library, B. Liber 1934

What proofs have you personally of the harmlessness of a vegetarian diet for the health of large numbers of people?

Harmlessness? It would be more correct to say usefulness or superiority. I cannot help repeating that during thirty years of a busy medical practice in New York, with over a hundred and fifty thousand consultations, not to speak of previous years and of my experience outside my practice, I have come in contact with tens of thousands of cases of disease where the discontinuance of meat-eating has been undoubtedly directly responsible for a healing or an improvement of the condition. And that is no exaggeration, as I have studied my cases closely, taking notes and figures concerning them. Of the hundreds of vegetarian---mostly lacto-vegetarian---children who have passed through my hands, I have followed many almost from babyhood to adult age. Most of them were children of vegetarian parents. Some were vegetarians by themselves. All of these children have become young men and women, physically healthier than the average, mentally bright, happy, almost always taller, stronger, better built than their parents and than other members of their families. During their childhood they were almost free from the common diseases and, when ill, had but little trouble in getting rid of their ailments. They certainly are the flower of humanity.

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The large and successful vegetarian co-operative fruit and vegetable producing colony “Eden” near Oranienburg, Germany (not far from Berlin) was 36 years old at the advent of Nazism. It was one of the rare places in Germany where meat, alcoholic beverages and tobacco could not be obtained. There was no church and no policeman. They had co-operative stores and a co-operative fruit cannery. The land belonged to the colony. It could neither be bought nor sold by individual colonists. The worker on the land received the full product of his toil. The hundreds of children raised there were in good health and normal in every respect. The vegetarian community was particularly proud of its Kindergarten, “Vegetarische Kinderheim.” It differed from other places of this sort “in that the children had more freedom; that they were treated kindly and individually; that they were most of the time in the open, in contact with nature; that, while playing farmers, they grew up to be real farmers, that they ate vegetarian food which they helped their teacher-friend to prepare.”

"Shall We Eat Flesh?" Rational Living Library, B. Liber 1934
Benzion Liber, M.D., Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at New York. Born in 1875, Liber was a Romanian Jewish Socialist, nicknamed "The People's Doctor" who worked at the Polyclinic Hospital and was a practicing physician in New York since 1904.

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Thursday, September 10, 2009

Excerpts from “Shall We Eat Flesh?” Rational Living Library, B. Liber 1934

Our best propaganda is the “propaganda by the deed”---just by being a vegetarian everywhere. All meat-eaters with some intelligence and sense of justice feel guilty in the presence of a vegetarian. They always begin to apologize without the least provocation: “I eat but little meat. I cannot stop it on account of my circumstances.” They are always on the defensive.

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In your enlightening work do not disregard the children. They may be and often are the best vegetarians without our teachings, but, generally, it is not difficult to make them see your point.

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Generally, persons who have not been vegetarians from their youth will not go to the trouble of adopting a new way of eating in advanced age. It is rare that such people should make an effort to change their habits. They are too conservative. Vegetarism is a revolution, a symbol of youth, of life and enthusiasm for a living idea. Only those young in spirit are capable of taking it up aggressively, confronting the surrounding scoffers and living it with their entire being.

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Those of us who eat eggs and milk products are guilty of forcing people to keep, and indirectly also to kill, animals.

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Whenever possible, it is best to reach an understanding about vegetarism before mating.

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As soon as one sees the truth contained in vegetarism and continues to eat meat, he is no longer innocent and ignorant of his mistake. He is guilty of crime.

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You may say the vegetarian is a sentimental, and therefore weak-willed, individual. Yes, he is sentimental. But he has a strong will-power as he is not going with the current, but against it, not imitating the unthinking flesh-eating majority or submitting to the dictates of the ignorant masses.

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They think they accomplish much by living a life apart from the rest of their fellow-men, adopt an attitude of superiority and are satisfied with their capacity not to soil their bodies with corpses.

They are, if they remain unchanged, forever paralyzed in their self-admiration and condemned to a limited activity and to mental sterility.

Their vegetarism is so strictly vegetarian, so unconcerned with larger human problems, that it is really non-vegetarian. They are so much in love with peace, that, by their silence and tolerance of the great social crime against the exploited class, they are criminals and are on the side of the criminal class, and are waging war against those who are chained and enslaved.

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"Shall We Eat Flesh?" Rational Living Library, B. Liber 1934
Benzion Liber, M.D., Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at New York. Born in 1875, Liber was a Romanian Jewish Socialist, nicknamed "The People's Doctor" who worked at the Polyclinic Hospital and was a practicing physician in New York since 1904.

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